It’s cock bashing time

So I’m posting, which means a few things. A) It will probably be thrown together quickly B) It certainly will be mindless and incoherent C) It will have a Phillies slant.  Lets go through this mongo mega trade and really depict it…and who I truly see as the biggest winners.

PHILLIES:

OUT: Cliff Lee (under contract for one year at 8 mil), Travis D’Arnaud, Michael Taylor, Kyle Drabek

IN: Roy Halladay (who immediately signs 3 year extension with vesting options for two more), Tyson Gillies, Phillipe Aumont, JC Ramirez, Six million bucks

BREAKDOWN:

I love Cliff Lee…really I do.  But he wasn’t resigning here.  Just wasn’t happening.  That dude wants CC-like money at CC like length (for you bastards playing at home…thats 20+ for 6 or more years).  It’s been rumored Amaro has had a boner the size of the Comcast Building for Halladay for quite some time…he finally found a way to get him.  Now, the Phillies do give up a boat in prospects (Taylor is a potential stud, Drabek as well….D’Arnaud has potential but is only single A), but the blow is softened by getting back very quality players as well (I investigated these boys…two pitchers with very plus stuff and an absolute SPEED demon who hit .341 in A+ ball last year).

People in Philly are shitting their pants over Roy Halladay.  We’ve heard he’s so good and blah blah blah…but lemme tell you something, this guy is the fucking titties.  You know how good Cole Hamels’ changeup can be? Like how it comes directly out of the same arm slot angle as his fastball that sits at 89 mph?  Well, imagine if Cole Hamels was 6’6″, 230 lbs, and instead of having one of those devastating pitches, he had 3.  Oh yeah, and have that fastball sit at 97mph instead of 88.  Oh yeah…he’s been pitching in the most offensive division in the most offensive era in baseball, and all the while shitting on everybody’s faces.  I can’t even describe how legit this guy is.  No bullshit, a sub 2.00 ERA is a serious possibility for him in the NL East.

This is a move that makes sense, but stings a bit for the Phils.  Gave up some real homegrown depth on the farm…but dudes like Halladay just DON’T become available.  Not only that…he really gave the Phillies a bit of a discount on his extension.  For an avg of 20 mil…thats a joke.  Comparable to other guys out there (CC, Santana) it truly is a deal.  To sweeten the pot, Phils also got six million bucks to offset Halladay’s salary this year.

In time I’ll break down further how the Phillies aren’t totally fucked for salary in the future as well.

SEATTLE:

IN: Cliff Lee, two draft picks in ’10, and in one year nothing but a dick in their hands

OUT: Phillipe Aumont, Tyson Gillies, JC Ramirez

People are blowing their loads over how fuckin rad of a deal this was for the Mariners.  Yeah…they got Cliff Lee.  Everybody in Philly knows how good he can be, and with The King at the top of the roto, they’re going to be a power to deal with in the AL West.  One problem:  THIS IS A MOVE A TEAM WITH A LEGIT SHOT TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES MAKES….AND THE MARINERS AIN’T THAT.

I’d bet dollars to donuts Cliff Lee is staring at a loaded revolver and a Mariners hat, deciding which fate is worse.  He’s going to a passionless fan base where he’ll post 17 wins, MAYBE a playoff appearance and then get paid.  THEY’RE GOING NOWHERE THIS YEAR PEOPLE.  At this time next year, the Mariners and their fan base are going to be looking around at no more Cliff Lee, the King posting another monster year and saying “Pay me”, and watching the Halo’s reload and overtake the AL West.  Enjoy this year Mariners fans, because if you don’t win the world series its going to be right back to Bavasi-esque doldrums.  Oh yeah…they emptied half their farm to get Cliff for one year.  Maybe the revolver is for the front office next October? Probably.

TORONTO:

IN: BALLER PROSPECTS

OUT: Roy Halladay, six mil

Boys and girls, I present to you a very shrewd team looking to stay competitive.  I tip my hat to the Jays…they got the man they REALLY wanted (Drabek, immediately the #1 pitcher in their farm), Travis d’Arnaud who has an awesome last name and very well could develop into a good major leaguer, and flip Michael Taylor to the A’s for a prospect named Brett Wallace.  For people who don’t know Brett Wallace let me break it down.  He’s kind of big framed/kinda pudgy, and is one of the best pure hitters in the minor leagues.  For you scoring at home, people with awkward bodies who can really swat=friggin’ awesome (ask John Kruk and Princess Fielder).  A lefty 1b/3b who has an ability to actually hit lefties rocks.  The only problem with Halladay leaving is the Jays have to sell to their fan base that they’re in rebuild mode, considering Roy Halladay truly was the face of the franchise.

OAKLAND:

IN: Michael Taylor

OUT: Brett Wallace

Nice little move for the A’s here, although as you can see I have a some serious love for Wallace.  Taylor has the tools to be the next Strawberry but is still a little raw—however unlike most super athletes in the minors he’s already a contact hitter trying to develop power.  Usually its the other way around.

Bottom Line for the best god damn team on the planet: Yeah, we did give up some better prospects than we got back.  But think like we just gave up a BMW 7-Series for a BMW 5-Series; we didn’t get slouches in return.  Adios Cliffy baby, Hello Doctor.  Yay baseball.

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7 Responses

  1. Everybody has enormous boners!

  2. While I appreciate the commentary of my fellow ASC poster, I must disagree on a couple of points.

    1) When Cliff Lee signs as a free agent next year, the Mariners will get the 2 draft picks, not the Phillies. So the Mariners are trading 3 solid but not top-of-farm-system prospects for 1 pretty cheap year of Cliff Lee, plus 2 high draft picks. That is why this is such a good deal for the Mariners.
    2) The “passionless fan base” and “going nowhere” Mariners are going to have a nice laugh at your expense when we’re competitive for the AL West title in 2010 and are one of the 5 best teams in the American League the 5 years after that. Jack Zduriencik is building a habitual winner.

  3. That mistake was mine on the picks…I misread it. For the “passionless” fan base quote, I’m simply taking that from a friend of mine who lives in Seattle, goes to many games, and never shuts up about how atrocious the fans are. And if your goal is to be competitive for the AL West title in 2010, then by god you’ll be successful.

  4. Seattle finished 85-77 last year. They just upgraded at 3rd and have a 1-2 starting duo to rival NYY (Sabathia, Burnett), BOS (Beckett, Lackey), and ARI (Webb, Haren)…I’d go as far to say that the M’s and ‘Backs have the best 1-2 punches in MLB now. A full season with Jack Wilson at SS instead of some random crapbag and you’re looking at a real good possibilty of 90+ wins…coupled with the Angels loss of top players and they just might have the AL West locked up. Granted there are some holes/uncertainties in offense, but their defense is just about the best in baseball and the pitching isn’t too shoddy after the headliners. In MLB a hot streak at the right time can take you to the World Series and beyond (St. Louis 2006, Colorado 2007) so they certainly can’t be ruled out.

    What were the reasons the Phillies decided not to keep Cliff Lee? They got money from Toronto, did they just want to restock the farm? If they had Halladay-Lee I doubt anyone would doubt their destiny of WS success.

  5. I’ve been to a good number of Mariner and Philly games, and I would hazard that the difference between Seattle’s “passionless” fans and the (by implication) passionate Philly fans is loud, drunken berating of the players on the field. And since the same distinction can be made when comparing people riding public transportation in Seattle and Philly, I think we can write it off as regional differences.

    Until last year, the Mariners were run by one of the most incompetent general managers in the game. Our attendance declined, as anyone could expect it to. But Zduriencik has the team on a staggering uphill march, and Safeco field is one of the most beautiful ballparks in the game, so the fans shall return.

    We need a left-handed, middle of the order hitter, and a decent #3 starter, and we are battle ready.

    The Phillies did not think they could keep both Lee and Halladay past 2010. They traded Lee, in my view, to restock a farm system depleted by trading for both Lee and Halladay. Also, Halladay > Lee.

  6. Safeco is beautiful from everything I’ve heard….and has been beautiful since 2001. You call it loud drunken berating, so be it. 102% percent attendance can’t be wrong.

    By saying the Mariners need a lefty heavy bat and #3 starter (also, relief help) you solidify my main point of the acquisition of Lee is a move a team ONE move away makes…not three or four.

    They traded Lee because they were stuck between a rock and a hard place with everybody else. If you don’t trade Lee, you have to get rid of even MORE prospects, including JA Happ (currently #4 starter) and god knows how much else more. On top of that you have to pay everybody, so you can say goodbye to Joe Blanton (scheduled for arbitration, should make roughly 8 million).

    So the Phillies would be stuck with a killer top 3 of Hamels Halladay Lee…and god knows who else. The following year you could be seriously screwed with Lee leaving, and the farm almost totally depleted. Meaning you have to go out and sign more FA arms, meaning bye bye more picks, meaning vicious cycle begins.

  7. “I think we could have kept both,” the GM said. “But this was a baseball decision for me and our organization and the people who work in this organization, that we could not leave the cupboard bare. If we had just acquired Roy and not moved Lee, we would have been in a position to have lost probably seven of our best 10 prospects in our organization [in the Lee and Halladay deals]. That is not the way to do business in baseball.”

    As I was saying

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